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IRC Log for 2013-01-02 Timestamps are in GMT/BST. [0:00] <pksato> mumbles: all 4GB? [0:00] <pksato> fdisk /dev/sdb [0:00] <pksato> d [0:00] <mumbles> if i try i get a cannout write to partition [0:00] <pksato> w [0:00] * chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [0:00] <mdszy_> mumbles, is it mounted? [0:00] <mumbles> it was [0:01] <pksato> ah... auto mount block access, or mess all. [0:01] <gordonDrogon> fan't foramt when mounted.. [0:01] <mumbles> unable to open dev/sdb [0:01] <mdszy_> gordonDrogon, no you fan't [0:01] <mumbles> and when i unmount i get a no medium found [0:02] <mumbles> but i can use the 8gb one that was in my eeepc 101 [0:02] <pksato> mumbles: run dmesg, and see if have erros about sdb or usb bus. [0:04] * redarrow (~quassel@unaffiliated/redarrow) has joined #raspberrypi [0:04] * dr_willis (~dr_willis@2601:d:a180:2b:41c1:8d37:ff40:dee9) has joined #raspberrypi [0:04] <UnaClocker> I love watching the server log for my webserver.. See what's being viewed on my site in real time.. :) [0:04] * sheldor (~sheldor@gateway/tor-sasl/pushkin) has joined #raspberrypi [0:05] <sheldor> whats the latest coolest project? [0:05] <sheldor> give me the news flash [0:05] <sheldor> of 2013 [0:05] <TAFB_ssd> sheldor: it's all about status pages. http://tafb.yi.org [0:05] <TAFB_ssd> must be live updating though :) [0:05] <mumbles> habari ! [0:05] <mumbles> though its not new. [0:05] <mumbles> or even probably cool [0:06] <sheldor> nice info TAFB_ssd [0:06] <TAFB_ssd> sheldor: did you see mamepi? [0:06] <TAFB_ssd> thanks :) [0:06] <TAFB_ssd> it's not running on a Pi, but I ran the same thing on a Pi :) [0:06] <TAFB_ssd> the Pi source code is even at the bottom [0:06] <pksato> sheldor: http://www.raspberrypi.org/ :) [0:06] <UnaClocker> I still think the latest coolest Pi trick is the FM transmitter that requires no additional hardware other than a 21cm wire attached to a GPIO pin. [0:06] * redarrow_ (~quassel@unaffiliated/redarrow) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [0:06] * thomashunter ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [0:07] <sheldor> mumbles: just another blog right? [0:07] <mumbles> UnaClocker: ? [0:07] <TAFB_ssd> UnaClocker: no wire is required, just touch it with your finger :) [0:07] <sheldor> let me google mamepi [0:07] <mumbles> sheldor: yeh written by some wordpress devs and others [0:07] <sheldor> okay not bad [0:07] <UnaClocker> mumbles: http://www.icrobotics.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Turning_the_Raspberry_Pi_Into_an_FM_Transmitter [0:07] <sheldor> UnaClocker: whoa that does sound cool! [0:07] <sheldor> haha [0:07] <mumbles> habariproject.org [0:09] <mumbles> going to have to try that [0:09] <pksato> make improved PiFM with "realtime" audio modulation. (mic) [0:10] <frikinz> wise use of python [0:11] <UnaClocker> hehe, before I got a Pi, I had no Python experience. Now I have enough to know I don't like Python. ;) [0:11] <sheldor> TAFB_ssd: retropie comes with mame included [0:11] <TAFB_ssd> nice [0:11] <sheldor> i already have a retropie [0:11] <sheldor> yeah its cool [0:15] * Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky [0:17] <gordonDrogon> before I got a Pi, I had no Python experience either. I still don't. [0:17] * bs123 ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [0:19] * OmNomDePlume is now known as RaycisCharles [0:21] * Mike-N-Go ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [0:24] * Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk [0:26] * Mike-N-Go ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [0:30] <gordonDrogon> want a $65K PC? http://app.audiogon.com/listings/media-servers-core-audio-technology-kryptos-ultimate-media-server-a-cost-no-object-marvel-2012-12-10-computer-audio-91403 [0:31] <ambro718> yeah, software PWM sucks. I guess I'll have to extend the gpio kernel driver to support PWM. [0:31] * ukgamer ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [0:32] * Weaselweb ([email protected]) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [0:32] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, I think there already might be one. [0:33] <ambro718> gordonDrogon: where? [0:33] <gordonDrogon> in the kernel. [0:33] <ambro718> you mean software PWM in the kernel? [0:33] <gordonDrogon> however I've just seem it in passing, never actually looked at it. [0:33] <gordonDrogon> last time I built a linux kernel for a server (not the pi) [0:33] <gordonDrogon> however, you might want to look for something called servoblaster [0:34] <ambro718> there's some PWM drivers in drivers/pwm but it doesn't support whatever is on the RPi [0:34] <gordonDrogon> that's a kernel module for the Pi that's designed to do the 'pwm' that RC servos use. [0:34] <gordonDrogon> or make your program setuid and use wiringPi's software PWM :) [0:34] <gordonDrogon> although even that isn't perfect. [0:34] <gordonDrogon> usually good enough for LEDs and motors though. [0:34] <mumbles> wow its just messed up the 8gb [0:35] * thomashunter ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: thomashunter) [0:37] <mumbles> going to bed. [0:37] <gordonDrogon> hm. good idea.. [0:37] <gordonDrogon> I might do the same! [0:37] * [SLB] is now known as [SLB]` [0:38] * mikey_w ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [0:39] * teepee ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [0:40] * ccssnet ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: http://atccss.net) [0:41] * ninjak ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Sto andando via) [0:43] * Cykey ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [0:43] * ccssnet ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [0:44] * Cf54 ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Quitte) [0:45] * KeatonT (~textual@unaffiliated/keatont) has joined #raspberrypi [0:46] * KeatonT (~textual@unaffiliated/keatont) Quit (Client Quit) [0:47] * lars_t_h ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [0:48] * hmmm ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [0:48] <hmmm> exit [0:48] * hmmm is now known as Guest95720 [0:48] * Guest95720 ([email protected]) has left #raspberrypi [0:49] * raspi-dan ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [0:50] * raspi-dan ([email protected]) has left #raspberrypi [0:51] * mikey_w ([email protected]) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [0:52] * Alfihar ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Bye Bye) [0:55] * KillAre ([email protected]) Quit () [0:55] * tinti ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [0:55] * tinti ([email protected]) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [0:55] * fuzz1981 ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [0:56] * mikey_w ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [0:56] <fuzz1981> pi@raspberrypi /sys/bus/iio/devices/iio:device0 $ cat name [0:56] <fuzz1981> mpu6050 [0:56] <fuzz1981> :) [0:56] <fuzz1981> now just need to figure out the gpio interrupt stuff and it should be fully functional [0:57] * DDave (~DDave@unaffiliated/ddave) has joined #raspberrypi [0:58] * [SLB]` is now known as [SLB] [0:58] * m8 (~mor@unaffiliated/m8) Quit (Quit: Sto andando via) [0:59] * bsd1101 ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [1:01] * zabomber (~zabomber@gateway/tor-sasl/zabomber) has left #raspberrypi [1:01] * MadeAllUp ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [1:01] * monkeymon ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: leaving) [1:06] * Quietlyawesome94 ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [1:07] * mdszy_ is now known as mdszy [1:07] <biberao> who uses [1:08] * tdy (~tdy@unaffiliated/tdy) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [1:08] <biberao> xbian? [1:08] * tdy (~tdy@unaffiliated/tdy) has joined #raspberrypi [1:09] * Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky [1:15] * comradekingu ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [1:20] * ReggieUK ([email protected]) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [1:20] * lollo64it ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [1:20] * Linovia ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]) [1:21] <dr_willis> xbain works well for me. [1:24] * Ulloa ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [1:25] * ReggieUK ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [1:25] * ChanServ sets mode +o ReggieUK [1:26] * egrouse (~newb@unaffiliated/egrouse) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [1:27] <fuzz1981> anyone know how to enable a pullup on a gpio pin? [1:29] <[SLB]> gpio mode <pin> [up down tri] [1:29] <fuzz1981> hmm where's the gpio utility? [1:30] <[SLB]> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/ [1:30] * Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk [1:30] * egrouse (~newb@unaffiliated/egrouse) has joined #raspberrypi [1:30] <fuzz1981> nice thanks .. you wouldn't know about interrupts would you? :) [1:30] * coin3d ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: coin3d) [1:31] <[SLB]> yw, nop sorry eheh [1:32] <fuzz1981> driver is on IRQ_GPIO2 but don't think it will quite work yet :) 51: 0 ARMCTRL inv_irq [1:32] * Ulloa ([email protected]) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [1:33] * DDave (~DDave@unaffiliated/ddave) Quit (Quit: Verlassend) [1:35] * Zarek_away is now known as ZareK_ [1:35] * ZareK_ is now known as Zarek_ [1:38] * lollo64it ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [1:38] * atgc ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: See you Space Cowboy) [1:40] <fuzz1981> hrm .. either the chip is pulling it low or pullup isn't working [1:40] * bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [1:45] * MadeAllUp ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [1:46] * markbook ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [1:46] * netw1z ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [1:50] * fayimora (~fayimora@2a01:388:201:3721:15f:9d2c:8707:6cf2) Quit (Quit: fayimora) [1:50] * pecorade ([email protected]) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [1:55] * NIN101 ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: NIN101) [1:55] <netw1z> oh yeaah RPI on a hangover! [1:56] * [SLB] is now known as [SLB]` [1:57] * mikey_w ([email protected]) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [2:00] * egrouse (~newb@unaffiliated/egrouse) Quit (Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]) [2:06] * aikiraichu (46a97d4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.169.125.79) has joined #raspberrypi [2:06] * dreamon_ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) has joined #raspberrypi [2:06] * wiiguy (~fake@unaffiliated/wiiguy) Quit (Quit: I just broke my connection, but no worries, we can rebuild it. We have the technology.) [2:07] <aikiraichu> anyone plan to build some cool NVGs with the sony flex glass that will come out eventually? [2:07] <aikiraichu> and a raspberry pi? [2:09] <aikiraichu> anyone even here? [2:10] * dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [2:10] <techkid6> We are, just didn't think to do that :P [2:10] <techkid6> Well, I am here :P [2:10] <aikiraichu> ah [2:10] <techkid6> I am always here xD [2:10] <aikiraichu> wouldn't it be cool to make a 300 or so dollar DIY NVG inside maybe some ski goggles? [2:11] * smw (~smw@unaffiliated/smw) has joined #raspberrypi [2:11] * Torikun ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [2:11] <Torikun> yo [2:11] <Torikun> yo [2:11] <aikiraichu> wonder if i could bribe sony into making a usb or HDMI interfaced flex glass [2:12] <techkid6> You know, that was one of the things I was planning on designing, similarly, but I have no money xD [2:12] <techkid6> I got my pi as a gift actually xD [2:12] <netw1z> i want some flex glass [2:12] <netw1z> and wrap it around my wrist like a comptuer fist [2:13] <aikiraichu> would be cool for an HUD or something like an ironman helmet [2:13] * KiltedPi ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [2:14] <techkid6> I was thinking of something similar to what was in that kids show, Neds Declassified, with that kid Cookie who wears the thing on his glasses :P [2:14] <aikiraichu> google glass type thing [2:14] <aikiraichu> but inside real glasses [2:15] <netw1z> id coat my ceiling with it [2:15] <netw1z> and lay in bed and compute [2:15] <aikiraichu> goggles would be easier though, because you don't have to modify it at all [2:15] <aikiraichu> because of the large area of glass/plasitc [2:15] <aikiraichu> just put a monitor on your ceiling [2:15] <atouk> isnt the ceiling over your bed coated enough already? [2:16] <aikiraichu> hehe [2:16] <Torikun> http://rushersdomain.blogspot.com/2013/01/removing-logging-to-increase-apache-on.html [2:17] * Cykey ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [2:19] * hrebicek ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [2:22] * sjs205 ([email protected]) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [2:22] * jardiamj ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [2:23] <jardiamj> Hi guys! after some months of not having time to play with my raspberrypi I plugged it back in today, but it doesn't want to boot [2:24] <Torikun> SD card in snug? [2:24] <Torikun> Verified Power supply works ? [2:24] <jardiamj> the power light comes on but the green light looks very dim. [2:24] <Torikun> Can you try flashing the SD card? [2:24] * tdy (~tdy@unaffiliated/tdy) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [2:24] <jardiamj> I just measured the power between TP1 and TP2 [2:24] <Torikun> with a new OS [2:25] <jardiamj> the multimeter says around 5.7 [2:25] * xCP23x ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [2:25] <Torikun> got a display on it? [2:25] <jardiamj> nothing [2:26] * timmmaaaayyy ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [2:26] <jardiamj> my doesn't even identify that there is an HDMI device connected [2:26] <Torikun> wow [2:26] <Torikun> I would reflash the SD card [2:26] <Torikun> and see if that resolved it [2:26] <jardiamj> I was reading that the voltage should be between 4.75 and 5.25 [2:27] <jardiamj> mine has more than 5.25, it's around 5.7/5.75 [2:27] <jardiamj> I already reflashed the SD card with the newest image I downloaded from the website [2:28] <Torikun> hmmm [2:28] <Torikun> using the same SD card that worked before? [2:28] <jardiamj> yes, does the voltage between TP1 and TP2 look OK to you? [2:28] * sjs205 ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [2:29] <Torikun> I am not sure about the voltage [2:29] * Cykey ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [2:30] <jardiamj> a couple of months ago I moved to a new house, so I packed my RPi in the same boxed I got, and just today I unboxed it again to try it, with exact same powe supply and SD Card as before.. [2:30] <Torikun> Hmmm sounds like its broke [2:31] <jardiamj> that's what I am afraid, but I am still in denial. [2:32] <Torikun> was it in a case? [2:32] <jardiamj> no, no case [2:32] <Torikun> anything could of happened then lol [2:36] * [SkG] (~sconde@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) Quit (Quit: Saliendo) [2:37] <jardiamj> I know... F**** [2:38] * tdy (~tdy@unaffiliated/tdy) has joined #raspberrypi [2:39] * RaycisCharles ([email protected]) Quit () [2:40] * scummos ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [2:42] * Kane ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Night all o/) [2:43] * Lord_DeathMatch ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [2:44] * gartenstuhl ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [2:45] * ka6sox is now known as ka6sox-away [2:45] <aikiraichu> wonder how much it would cost to have sony make some flex glass that fits inside glasses [2:46] <jardiamj> well, I will just gonna wait and hope that the polyfuse was the problem [2:47] <jardiamj> I will try with another power supply later [2:49] <aikiraichu> is there a way to power a PI with batteries or something? [2:49] <aikiraichu> to be mobile? [2:50] * timmmaaaayyy ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: timmmaaaayyy) [2:50] * tech2077 ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [2:52] <jardiamj> aikiraichu, apparently your can use 4 AA batteries, but I haven't tried... [2:53] * tech2077 ([email protected]) Quit (Client Quit) [2:53] <jardiamj> I am pulling my hair out right now, because my RPi doesn't boot... [2:53] <aikiraichu> thats what i heard, but how? [2:54] * tektsu ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Leaving.) [2:55] <dr_willis> aikiraichu: i have some of those cell-phone-charger battery packs that can run my pi for several hours [2:55] <dr_willis> newtrend has several kinds. ;) [2:55] <dr_willis> new-trent [2:57] * monkeymon ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [2:58] <aikiraichu> just use a USB to Micro usb and one of the battery packs? [2:58] * monkeymon ([email protected]) Quit (Client Quit) [2:58] <dr_willis> yep [2:59] <dr_willis> same as if i was chargeing a phone [2:59] <dr_willis> use one with a 1A port . not a 500mA port [2:59] <aikiraichu> http://www.newtrent.com/store/iphone-external-battery/icarrier.html this fine? [2:59] <dr_willis> now if i could power a usb hub from the 2A port i would be all set. ;) [3:00] * Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky [3:00] <dr_willis> thats one i have aikiraichu . gotts love how the term iPhone is the new must have buzz word... [3:01] <dr_willis> that one is big ans weigs like a lb. [3:01] * mikey_w ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [3:01] <aikiraichu> dang [3:01] <dr_willis> was like $65 on amazon [3:01] <dr_willis> it is 12000 mAH [3:02] <dr_willis> biggest one ive seen [3:02] <aikiraichu> what would i do with it mobile? [3:02] <aikiraichu> maybe those NVGs with the flex glass [3:03] * Cykey ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [3:03] <dr_willis> i used it last week so i dident have to run a power cord to my pi when i was demoing it [3:04] <aikiraichu> i dont even know what i will do with a pi besides just mess around with it [3:05] <aikiraichu> and the NV stuff [3:07] <dr_willis> wife took one of mine for her media player. [3:07] * mikey_w ([email protected]) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [3:07] <dr_willis> xbian works very well [3:07] <dr_willis> other i can use for a upnp server/media player/znc server [3:07] * sphenxes ([email protected]) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [3:09] <ambro718> what's the maximum voltage that can be brought to the micro usb port? [3:09] <ambro718> is there a regulator built into the board? [3:09] * Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk [3:10] <aikiraichu> can i just watch youtube and play music and stuff? [3:11] <aikiraichu> can i use external HDDs and make a storage server? [3:12] <PhotoJim> Sure. [3:13] <PhotoJim> Won't be the fastest server ever, but perfectly capable. [3:13] * netw1z ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [3:13] <dr_willis> external usb on a usb hub works here [3:14] <dr_willis> xbian has a youtube plugin that worked [3:15] * mikey_w ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [3:17] <aikiraichu> i was really going to load like linux server or just linux onto it [3:20] * KeatonT (~textual@unaffiliated/keatont) has joined #raspberrypi [3:23] <aikiraichu> would that work? [3:23] <dr_willis> raspian is good for that [3:23] <PhotoJim> As it would on any system. [3:24] <dr_willis> theres non linux os's also ;-) [3:24] * fuzz1981 ([email protected]) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [3:24] <PhotoJim> Raspbian and Arch Linux are the most optimized OSes for the Pi though. [3:25] <KiltedPi> Raspbian is just wheezy but with minor tweaks for pi [3:25] <KiltedPi> @_@ [3:25] <PhotoJim> Yes. Minor in implementation, but not minor in effect. [3:26] <plugwash> well if you consider rebuilding every package with changed compiler settings to be "minor tweaks" [3:28] <dr_willis> im sort of cheating and using a xbian install as my server. ;) [3:29] <KiltedPi> I dunno. depends what you want to do I suppose? [3:29] <KiltedPi> Like, "If it runs on wheezy" [3:29] <KiltedPi> Then your good. [3:29] <KiltedPi> you're [3:30] <aikiraichu> the fuck would i do with a server though [3:30] <dr_willis> depends on your needs [3:30] <aikiraichu> i dont even use up my 1TB HDD i have on my desktop [3:30] <aikiraichu> i really dont have any needs [3:30] <dr_willis> i use znc on mine so i irc into it, then get here [3:31] <mdszy> Why is it that you need to buy an MPEG-2 license to decode on the RPi? [3:31] <dr_willis> why do you need a pc.... ;) [3:31] * melonipoika ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [3:31] <aikiraichu> how could i IRC it? [3:31] <dr_willis> aikiraichu: i installed znc. then give the irc client my ip# of tthe pi. [3:32] * dj_pi ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [3:32] <dr_willis> znc is an irc bouncer [3:32] <jardiamj> Checking my RPi I noticed what it seems like a burn resistor [3:32] <dr_willis> its always connected here. so i can get here from any of my pcs or phone [3:32] <aikiraichu> thats awesome [3:32] <aikiraichu> i want to do THAT [3:33] <aikiraichu> as well as the NVGs and stuff [3:33] <dr_willis> nvgs? [3:33] <jardiamj> that might be what is wrong with it.. [3:33] <aikiraichu> night vision goggles [3:33] <aikiraichu> take some sony flex glass [3:34] <aikiraichu> get them to create sony flex glass with an HDMI output [3:34] <aikiraichu> get two cameras [3:34] <aikiraichu> take off the IR filter [3:34] <dr_willis> id rather have an e-ink hdmi monitor [3:34] <aikiraichu> wire a crapload of IR LEDs into some pair of goggles [3:34] * SgrA (~sgra@unaffiliated/sgra) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [3:35] <atouk> e-ink hdmi? [3:35] <aikiraichu> assemble onto goggles [3:35] <dr_willis> saw some prototype android phones with a notmal display on one side. a e-ink one on the other. ;) [3:36] <KiltedPi> you can use a ps3 eye camera that way [3:36] <KiltedPi> And they are only a few quid. [3:36] <dr_willis> for what i do in my phone. e-ink would work [3:36] <jardiamj> would something like this be covered by the warranty? [3:36] <jardiamj> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=btd3&s=6 [3:37] * tb01110100 ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [3:37] <KiltedPi> taking IR filters off is a wee bit dangerous too tho, no? [3:38] <aikiraichu> not really [3:38] * mythos (~mythos@unaffiliated/mythos) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [3:38] <aikiraichu> maybe [3:38] <aikiraichu> i havent tried [3:38] * Foxhoundz (~Foxhoundz@unaffiliated/foxhoundz) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [3:38] <aikiraichu> but the video i saw made it look really easy [3:38] <dr_willis> ir filters on a webcam? dangerous to who? [3:38] <aikiraichu> yea [3:39] <tb01110100> I have a very annoying bug with Arch Linux where the CLI spits out "USB Devices found" messages randomly. Does anybody know how I might fix this? Rebooting doesn't help, btw and there are no loose cables. [3:39] * ksx4system ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [3:39] <KiltedPi> Oh [3:40] <KiltedPi> I thought taking an IR filter off a camera might emit something dangerous. I dunno! I'm new to electronics [3:40] <KiltedPi> My background is in software. [3:40] <dr_willis> tb01110100: if its a kernel message thats on the consoles. on ubuntu i know therees a /etc/sysctrl.conf file (i think) that can reduuuce kernel messages. not sure where arch would do it [3:40] <dr_willis> the ir filter... filtere light comming into the camera... [3:40] <aikiraichu> my background is in nothing, as i barely know any HTML, and no other programming at all [3:41] <dr_willis> its not an ir laser beam ;) [3:41] <KiltedPi> heh [3:41] <KiltedPi> :) [3:41] <KiltedPi> As socrates once said- [3:41] <KiltedPi> "before true knowledge can be earned, you must first admit you know nothing at all" [3:41] <tb01110100> dr_willis: Nope, no such file in /etc. [3:41] * brady2600 ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [3:42] <brady2600> anyone have any idea to get hidden services running on a raspberry pi? [3:42] <tb01110100> I can still run commands, but the messages get VERY annoying. [3:42] <dr_willis> tb01110100: arch has gotten to weird for me. i gave up on it ages ago. id check its wiki for kernel log messages/levels [3:42] <dr_willis> theres bound to be a setting somewhere for it [3:42] * dero ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Leaving.) [3:42] <tb01110100> dr_willis: Arch on RPi, or Arch in general? [3:43] <dr_willis> i use ubuntu these days [3:43] <dr_willis> dumped arch totally about 3 yr back [3:43] <tb01110100> I had Arch working just fine earlier, then I screwed up the boot config and had to redo everything :) [3:43] <tb01110100> now Arch spits out the messages. [3:44] <tb01110100> Asides from that, everything works fine. [3:44] <dr_willis> could be a power issue [3:44] <dr_willis> everything seems tto be a power issue with the pi [3:44] <dr_willis> ;) [3:44] <dr_willis> check dmesg output also. [3:44] <dr_willis> might give a clue [3:44] * ksx4system ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [3:45] <dr_willis> last time i had an issue like that it was a flakey webcam on a laptop [3:45] <tb01110100> Well, it spits out TONS of new USB device messages. :) [3:45] * axisys (~axisys@unaffiliated/axisys) has joined #raspberrypi [3:45] <dr_willis> console was unuseable due to kernel messages [3:45] <dr_willis> sounds like a similer issue [3:46] <tb01110100> Ah well, I'll just wipe the SD card again, reinstall and hope it works this time. :) [3:46] <dr_willis> i had to reduce the kernel log levels to hide the messages [3:46] <KiltedPi> I'm aware of the -lsusb command [3:46] <KiltedPi> Its neat [3:46] <KiltedPi> I just learned about it, and some other BASH [3:47] * Cykey ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [3:47] <KiltedPi> I can't wait to reprogram some toys [3:47] * shapr ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [3:48] <shapr> Is there some way to ask my Pi the class of the SD card it has? [3:48] <KiltedPi> My 'kid' and I are building the OWI edge tomorrow [3:48] * SgrA (~sgra@unaffiliated/sgra) has joined #raspberrypi [3:48] <KiltedPi> 'class'? [3:48] <tb01110100> shapr: It should say on the card itself. [3:48] <tb01110100> shapr: Mine's a class 4. [3:48] <shapr> tb01110100: It claims to be class 10, but my class 6 card actually seems to be faster, thus my question. [3:49] <tb01110100> shapr: Hmmmm... [3:49] <KiltedPi> Whats a class of SD card? [3:49] <shapr> KiltedPi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#Speed_Class_Rating [3:50] <KiltedPi> roger that shapr [3:50] <KiltedPi> Speed is important with SD? [3:50] <tb01110100> dr_willis: Hehehe... shut down, unplugged and replugged all cables, rebooted, and so far I'm not getting any messages... :D [3:50] <Xark> shapr: I noticed the same thing. Also my class 6 has been much more robust in the RPi (no issues for a few months now). [3:50] <shapr> KiltedPi: for some devices, like video cams, it's very important. [3:50] <KiltedPi> Ah! [3:50] <KiltedPi> Very pertinent! [3:50] <KiltedPi> thanks [3:50] <shapr> But for the raspberry pi it's roughly equivalent to "hard drive speed" [3:50] <KiltedPi> I'll be working with a cam, with our wildlife recording project [3:51] <shapr> where faster is better, but maybe not affordable :-) [3:51] <shapr> Sounds like fun [3:51] <KiltedPi> I'm using some playstation eye cams [3:51] <KiltedPi> it should prove to be yep [3:51] <shapr> Oh I've heard those are easy to repurpose for just about anything [3:51] <shapr> I'd like to get some. [3:51] <KiltedPi> The quality was pretty good at 340x280 [3:51] <tb01110100> KiltedPi: Sounds like awesome! Can't wait 'till I know enough to try stuff like that :) [3:51] <KiltedPi> And you can turn them into NVC's yeah [3:52] <KiltedPi> tb! I don't have a CLUE about electronics! [3:52] <KiltedPi> I'm a software programmer myself [3:52] <shapr> tb01110100: So, haven't heard of something in /proc that tells me the reported class of my sdhc card? [3:52] <tb01110100> KiltedPi: Same here. :) [3:52] <shapr> KiltedPi: same here, just learning about electronics [3:52] <KiltedPi> My dad helped me build the LED test circuit that simply lights up! [3:53] <KiltedPi> I remember doing it... Ach! maybe ten years ago in science class! [3:53] <dr_willis> ive seen class 10 for the same price or cheaper then same sized class 4 - on sale. [3:53] * markbook ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [3:53] <KiltedPi> The quality of the eye cam when using a removed IR filter- [3:53] <KiltedPi> Well... [3:53] <KiltedPi> It wasn't -too- great. [3:53] <tb01110100> shapr: Sorry, don't know much about stuff like that. I don't know why a class 6 would be faster than a 10. The class of the card SHOULD be what it says on the card. Sorry I can't help you futher. [3:53] <KiltedPi> I wanted better pics of the neighbouring foxes and things. [3:54] <KiltedPi> But! At $5 a cam- you can't argue. [3:54] <dr_willis> whats the point of removeing the filter? i missed that [3:54] <KiltedPi> Night vision- [3:54] <KiltedPi> NVC* [3:54] <aikiraichu> with IR leds [3:54] <tb01110100> KiltedPi: Whereabouts do you live? [3:54] <shapr> tb01110100: I appreciate the friendliness in any case :-) [3:54] <KiltedPi> Scotland. [3:54] <tb01110100> Oh Ho! [3:54] <KiltedPi> West coast! [3:54] <tb01110100> shapr: Awesome!@ [3:54] <dr_willis> guides i saw put a different filter in. replaceing the ir filter [3:54] <shapr> Xark: If you find out some way to ask the Pi for the class of its SD card, I'd like to hear about it. [3:55] <tb01110100> I'm in the States myself. [3:55] <KiltedPi> Ach! need some sleep long day tomorrow gais [3:55] <dr_willis> so it only saw ir [3:55] <tb01110100> lol KiltedPi no wonder your nick. [3:55] <KiltedPi> :) [3:55] * alan_o ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [3:55] <KiltedPi> nite! [3:55] * KiltedPi ([email protected]) Quit () [3:55] <aikiraichu> only seeing IR would be good for NV only goggles [3:55] * mythos (~mythos@unaffiliated/mythos) has joined #raspberrypi [3:55] <aikiraichu> Not so much for NV HUD goggles [3:56] <shapr> Also, is there some way to *under*clock my raspi? [3:56] <dr_willis> this was a guide for x ray vision to see through clothing. ;) [3:56] <shapr> I read the article on *over*clocking in The MagPi issue 7, but I want to reduce the power required... [3:56] <dr_willis> from years back [3:56] <dr_willis> shapr i think thats doable also [3:57] <shapr> cool, I'll look it up. [3:57] <tb01110100> Is it relativly safe to OC the Pi to 1Ghz? [3:57] <dr_willis> same config file. [3:57] <dr_willis> ive not tried any oc'ing. [3:57] <shapr> tb01110100: The MagPi issue 7 said it depends on your SD card and your particular Pi [3:57] <tb01110100> MagPi Issue 7? Thx, I'll check it out. [3:57] <shapr> tb01110100: page 18 of issue 7 [3:58] * torgo ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [3:58] <aikiraichu> where can i find a PI for 35 instead of 43 here:http://raspberrypi.rsdelivers.com/default.aspx [3:58] <torgo> Can anyone help me with some basic shell scripting? [3:58] <tb01110100> aikiraichu: Element14? [3:59] <shapr> torgo: Probably, what are you trying to do? [3:59] <torgo> my camera went crazy and downloaded all my files as .jpg.download [3:59] <torgo> i'm trying to bulk rename them to just .jpg [4:00] * Torikun ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: leaving) [4:00] <torgo> lemme show you what i have so far... [4:00] <shapr> for x in *.jpg.download; do mv $x $(basename $x); done; [4:00] * Torikun ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [4:00] <Torikun> yo [4:01] <shapr> torgo: It's something much like that, but you should TEST that on some test files first! [4:01] <dr_willis> i tend to use the qmv command for mass renameing [4:01] <dr_willis> its part of the rename utils package on ubuntu. not sure about rasbian [4:01] <torgo> http://ix.io/3P0 [4:01] <torgo> yeah heh [4:01] <dr_willis> test with 'echo' first [4:01] <shapr> oh wait, I found a bug already [4:02] <shapr> for x in *.jpg.download; do mv $x $(basename $x .download); done; [4:02] <dr_willis> spaces in filenames = issues [4:02] <torgo> shell scripting is weird... [4:02] <torgo> i don't get it [4:02] <torgo> i am a programmer by trade but shell just kills me [4:03] <dr_willis> yse python, or per; then ;) [4:03] <mdszy> it's not that weird [4:03] <dr_willis> perl [4:03] <mdszy> the syntax is just a little strange [4:03] <mdszy> especially when it's compacted onto a single line [4:03] <torgo> well that's what i mean :) [4:03] <torgo> unusual syntax [4:03] <torgo> then again i thnik perl is weird too :) [4:03] <mdszy> it's not bad -- actually pretty powerful -- once you learn how it works [4:03] <shapr> You can some some srsly nifty things though, like writing a spell-check in one line of shell script. [4:04] <clear`> i need to put together a want list for my pi and place an order [4:04] <tb01110100> torgo: You don't have to compact it onto a single line. Use one line per command. [4:04] <torgo> will do [4:04] <clear`> i need a case, wifi adapter, bluetooth and or remote [4:04] <dr_willis> order first. ;) it may take a while to ship [4:04] <clear`> well i have 1 pi already [4:04] <clear`> will be ording more eventually [4:04] <dr_willis> i need like 3 more [4:04] <torgo> i got mine in 1 week [4:05] <mdszy> I'm gonna be getting a Wifi adaptor soon [4:05] <torgo> ordered it from someone on amazon [4:05] <clear`> yea i was going to order 4 more [4:05] <mdszy> why do you guys get cases? I'm not really sure why it would be needed [4:05] <torgo> it's.... awesome? [4:05] <clear`> not needed [4:05] <dr_willis> mdszy: protection [4:05] <clear`> but i dont want to accidently short it out ; [4:05] <aikiraichu> if i had a 3d printer i would print a kickass one [4:05] <dr_willis> and to screw it down so it dont dangle from your desk [4:05] <aikiraichu> but they are not cheap [4:06] <mdszy> I wonder if it'd be too hard to build one of my own [4:06] <mdszy> I live near our family farm, which has a big, really great shop with all sorts of tools for stuff like that [4:06] <dr_willis> i made one from a wooden box last week.. [4:06] <clear`> you can get one for $1000 [4:06] <mdszy> clear`, what? Holy crap. That kinda defeats the point of a $35 computer once you spend that much XD [4:06] <clear`> found one on CL for $750 [4:06] <aikiraichu> i wish i had 1000 to drop on a 3d printer [4:06] <clear`> i should have bought it [4:07] <aikiraichu> 3d printer, not a case [4:07] <clear`> yea printer lol [4:07] <dr_willis> got a cnc machine shop 500 ft from me. ;) i could make a pi case from solid brass.. if i had the brass.. [4:07] <clear`> lol [4:07] <dr_willis> wire edm machine. and fancy stuff [4:07] <clear`> we have a few cnc shops around, i thought about getting a mold made for a case [4:07] <clear`> and try to sell them [4:07] <clear`> :P [4:07] <Torikun> I use the cheap plastic case from amazon [4:08] <Torikun> 20$ [4:08] <clear`> i was looking at the $7 cases lol [4:08] <dr_willis> i likr the plywood cases with mounting holes [4:08] <clear`> im cheap [4:08] <Torikun> all the money you out in the pi and you can get a netbook lok [4:09] <dr_willis> picade cabinent [4:09] <clear`> pi is for development [4:09] <clear`> and learning [4:09] * Lord_DeathMatch ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [4:10] <dr_willis> haxoring ;) since hacking is a meaningless term these days [4:10] <Torikun> it is [4:10] <clear`> it is [4:10] <Torikun> after Ubuntu became popular everyone on Linux is a hacker [4:11] <atouk> ever since teh movie "Hackers" came out, everyone is a hacker [4:11] <Torikun> do anything to a computer and your a hacker [4:11] <dr_willis> thats backtrack.. ;) [4:12] <clear`> lol [4:12] <axion> no, try to learn about how something works, and you're a hacker. [4:12] <Torikun> netbus [4:12] <clear`> ubuntu makes linux soo easy [4:12] <axion> you can use a computer without being a hacker [4:12] <Torikun> or break one [4:12] <atouk> ubuntu is for operating a linux machine without having to actually learn any linux [4:12] <clear`> for the most part [4:12] <Torikun> not reslly [4:13] <clear`> it helped me convert a few people to linux OS instead of windows [4:13] * atouk waits for all the ubuntu users to get defensive [4:13] <axion> ubuntu raises more questions and adds more linux mysticism than it solves [4:13] <clear`> which now i never have to fix peoples computers :D [4:13] <Torikun> you still Need cli [4:13] <Torikun> I use arch and centos at home [4:14] <clear`> atouk: no need for defense, you hit the nail on the head [4:14] <mdszy> I use Fedora [4:14] <clear`> ubuntu is super user friendly [4:14] <atouk> so is a rock [4:14] <Torikun> with unity? [4:14] <atouk> pick up, bang on head [4:14] <clear`> lol [4:14] <clear`> well 12.10 isnt [4:14] <clear`> i hated unity [4:14] <clear`> xfce ftw! [4:14] <dr_willis> wife has no isssues with unity.. shes 52 yrs old [4:15] <dr_willis> shes now learning her way around xbmc [4:15] <atouk> what's that one with the ugly brown background and the icons on the left [4:15] <clear`> i didnt like it at all [4:15] <clear`> atouk: no clue [4:16] <dr_willis> so it would be ok it they were on the right and it was hot pink? [4:16] <dr_willis> ;) [4:16] <axion> having _anything_ on a root window is pointless [4:17] <dr_willis> i dont see how that applies to unity actually. [4:17] <axion> if you care about productivity, err...hacking [4:18] <dr_willis> prohactivity [4:18] <axion> throw away the mouse while yu're at it, and get things done faster [4:19] <aikiraichu> so, when i get a pi [4:20] <aikiraichu> how will i set it up to be an IRC bouncer with ZNC? [4:20] <clear`> install znc? [4:21] * goad ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [4:21] <aikiraichu> how could i make it into a storage server? [4:21] <clear`> add an external hard drive [4:21] <clear`> then you can either just use ftp [4:21] <dr_willis> install znc.. configure znc.. run znc [4:21] <axion> depends which operating system you put on your pi, and then it would be the same as any other device with said operating system [4:21] <clear`> or set it up cloud [4:22] <clear`> apt-get install znc! [4:22] <clear`> but that depends on the OS [4:22] <dr_willis> i use sftp to get to files via my phone [4:22] <clear`> my external hard drive started clicking [4:22] <clear`> =Z [4:22] <dr_willis> for znc on rasbian i had to enable ipv6 somehow for znc to work [4:22] <clear`> psybnc might be easier [4:23] <aikiraichu> can i stick ubuntu server and slap an external HDD on it? [4:23] <clear`> but i thought both were easy to install and setup [4:23] <clear`> dont think ubuntu server runs on it just yet [4:23] <shapr> You can certainly put an external usb hdd on your pi though. [4:23] <aikiraichu> what server would i have to use, rasbian? [4:23] <torgo> yay it works [4:23] <torgo> thanks shapr :D [4:23] <shapr> torgo: yay! I'm glad I could help! [4:24] <clear`> i use raspbian, works fine for me [4:24] <shapr> I also use rasbian, with ssh -X for graphical programs (since my desktop and laptop are also Debian). [4:24] <aikiraichu> what HDD enclosure can i use? [4:25] <torgo> arch :D [4:25] <clear`> any? [4:25] <dr_willis> aikiraichu: most any [4:25] <shapr> aikiraichu: doesn't matter, as long as it has a USB plug [4:25] <clear`> the enclosure doesnt matter, just needs to be usb :P [4:25] <clear`> and powered [4:25] <aikiraichu> cant find a good one though [4:25] <dr_willis> theres 1000's of them ;) [4:25] <shapr> I'm using an adapter that has usb on one end and SATA on the other. [4:25] <clear`> newegg [4:25] <aikiraichu> needs to hold like 3 TB [4:25] <dr_willis> wd makes them. [4:26] <dr_willis> as does most other makers [4:26] <dr_willis> i got like 4 usb hds. 3TB in size [4:26] <dr_willis> may as well get usb3 just in case. ;) [4:26] <aikiraichu> 4 3TB HDDs? [4:26] <clear`> i will eventually just setup a NAS [4:26] <TAFB_ssd> i got two 3tb's for $99USD each, crazy deal :) [4:27] <aikiraichu> WHERE [4:27] <clear`> black friday [4:27] <clear`> newegg [4:27] <aikiraichu> DAMN YOU [4:27] <dr_willis> local stores had them for like $100 at xmas time [4:27] * Foxhoundz (~Foxhoundz@unaffiliated/foxhoundz) has joined #raspberrypi [4:27] <TAFB_ssd> aikiraichu: at a Staples, one day sale :) [4:28] * torgo ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: leaving) [4:28] <TAFB_ssd> http://likestuff.globat.com/2012-05-07-3TBseagateGoFlexHomeExternalHardDrive/2012-05-07-3TBseagateGoFlexHomeExternalHardDrive_L.jpg [4:28] <aikiraichu> found a rosewill enclosure [4:28] <TAFB_ssd> http://likestuff.globat.com/2012-05-07-3TBseagateGoFlexHomeExternalHardDrive/Seagate%203GB%20Go%20Flex%20external%20hard%20drives%20from%20Staples_L.png [4:28] <aikiraichu> now to find the HDDs [4:28] <TAFB_ssd> nice [4:28] <dr_willis> cheaper to get the enclosuer with the hd included allready i find... [4:29] <TAFB_ssd> I hooked the drive up as eSata and recycled the docking/nas stations as web/email servers! woot: http://tafb.yi.org [4:29] <Torikun> cool [4:29] <dr_willis> hd alone costs as much as the hd+enclosure last i checked [4:30] <aikiraichu> where can i get an HDD and enclosure? [4:30] <aikiraichu> the 3TB ones [4:30] <dr_willis> most evey store on the planet. [4:30] <Torikun> go sb [4:30] <dr_willis> staples, bestbuy, amazon,, [4:31] <aikiraichu> newegg [4:31] <Torikun> go bestbuy or frys [4:31] <aikiraichu> ? [4:31] <TAFB_ssd> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Seagate-FreeAgent-GoFlex-Desk-3-TB-USB-3-0-External-Hard-Drive-STAC3000102-NEW-/400373607204?pt=US_External_Hard_Disk_Drives&hash=item5d38206b24 [4:31] <dr_willis> frys has the best deals here [4:31] <dr_willis> bestbuy = worst prices [4:32] <dr_willis> online, amazon, or newegg [4:32] <dr_willis> or pricewatch.com ;) [4:32] <aikiraichu> 4TB for 210 [4:32] <aikiraichu> not bad [4:32] <aikiraichu> seagate [4:33] <aikiraichu> not way will i ever fill 4tb [4:33] <aikiraichu> maybe ill make it a porn server or something [4:33] <dr_willis> 4tbs are 'new' ;) not seen them in stores yet [4:33] * Essobi ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [4:33] <aikiraichu> just store all my porn on it [4:33] <aikiraichu> who am i kidding, who downloads porn [4:33] <TAFB_ssd> aikiraichu: that's what I thought when I had 8tb, now it's full and I need more :) [4:33] <dr_willis> 3tb for $100 4tb for $200 seems.. overpriced [4:34] <TAFB_ssd> when I got my new internet, the TB's filled up fast: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2376827100.png [4:34] <aikiraichu> the crap you live? [4:34] <aikiraichu> the US? [4:34] <TAFB_ssd> Canada [4:34] * melonipoika ([email protected]) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [4:35] <aikiraichu> i need to move to kansas city [4:35] <TAFB_ssd> normally costs $99, or $150 when I go over my cap. But I went over the cap by 3.2TB last month, and I got a letter say that they arn't going to max my cap at a $50 overage charge... interesting to see what this months bill will be :) [4:36] <TAFB_ssd> i wanna move to Wilson, NC :) http://www.greenlightnc.com/about/internet/ [4:36] <TAFB_ssd> too bad I'm not allowed in the USA :( [4:36] <aikiraichu> what did you do? [4:36] <TAFB_ssd> http://tafb.xxx/rcmp/ [4:36] * ka6sox-away is now known as ka6sox [4:37] * mdszy (~mdszy@unaffiliated/mdszy) Quit (Quit: bye) [4:37] * mikey_w ([email protected]) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [4:37] <aikiraichu> you tried to smuggle firearms into canada? [4:37] <TAFB_ssd> smuggle isn't the right word [4:37] <bsd1101> xxx..... [4:38] * KeatonT (~textual@unaffiliated/keatont) Quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/) [4:38] <Torikun> lol [4:38] <aikiraichu> but you did it? [4:38] <TAFB_ssd> if it's blocked for ya just use one of my other domains, http://ecuflashking.com/rcmp etc. [4:38] * UnaClocker ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: I'll be back another time) [4:38] <Torikun> so many [4:38] <TAFB_ssd> smuggle? no. Import? Yep. Done it lots of times, never a problem, except for that time :) [4:38] <aikiraichu> you, i like [4:38] <TAFB_ssd> lol [4:38] <aikiraichu> nice PS90s [4:39] <aikiraichu> wish i had one [4:39] <TAFB_ssd> thanks, loved the PS90's :) super fun. [4:39] <TAFB_ssd> http://tafb.xxx/guns/pictures/10.3%20PS90%20PICS/large/PICT1833.JPG [4:39] <aikiraichu> how long of a fucking barrel do you need on a shotgun? [4:40] <TAFB_ssd> rofl :) [4:40] <TAFB_ssd> that's my sniper barrel [4:40] <shapr> hey, watch the language :-P [4:40] * brady2600 ([email protected]) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [4:40] <shapr> this is a family oriented channel [4:40] <Torikun> nice [4:40] <TAFB_ssd> usually it lives with a 12.5" barrel in a tactical setup [4:40] <aikiraichu> sorry [4:40] <aikiraichu> wait, in canada do they care about barrel length? [4:40] <TAFB_ssd> they sure do [4:41] <TAFB_ssd> not allowed under 14" [4:41] <TAFB_ssd> usualluy [4:41] <TAFB_ssd> : [4:41] <TAFB_ssd> ) [4:41] <TAFB_ssd> here's how the shotty normally lives: http://tafb.xxx/guns/pictures/gunsalltogethergood/large/PICT1136.JPG [4:41] <aikiraichu> that P90 is SBRed though [4:41] <TAFB_ssd> yeah, they don't care about rifle barrel lenghts, as long as the entire gun is 26" long or longer. [4:41] <TAFB_ssd> PS90 with short barrel = 26.34" :) [4:42] <aikiraichu> dat 22 with a krinkov comp [4:42] <TAFB_ssd> yeah, ruger 10/22 with "Krinker Plinker" kit. [4:42] * thomashunter ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [4:42] <TAFB_ssd> http://tafb.xxx/guns/pictures/2ndkrinkerwithscope/large/2ndkrinkerscope3large.jpg [4:42] <aikiraichu> what about full autos and high cap mags? [4:42] <TAFB_ssd> http://tafb.xxx/guns/pictures/2ndkrinkerwithscope/large/2ndkrinkerscope2large.jpg [4:42] <TAFB_ssd> no full auto's allowed at all [4:42] * bootc ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [4:43] <aikiraichu> DANGIT [4:43] <TAFB_ssd> all magazines for semi auto non-rimfire guns have to be limited to 5 rounds [4:43] <aikiraichu> that sucks [4:43] <TAFB_ssd> so that 100 round double drum? holds 5, the 50 rounds PS90 mags? hold 5 :( [4:43] * mads- ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [4:43] <shapr> Anyone else using Haskell on their Raspberry Pi? [4:44] * trevorman (~tman@unaffiliated/trevorman) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [4:44] <aikiraichu> if i had the money, i would be a class 2 manufacturer, and buy a crap ton of full autos [4:44] <aikiraichu> then america would be perfect [4:44] <aikiraichu> but gun control is getting stricter [4:44] <aikiraichu> D: [4:45] <TAFB_ssd> yeah, I'm told they'll let me in sometime in the next 6 to 16 years :) [4:45] * bootc ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [4:45] <aikiraichu> by then ill have the money [4:45] <Torikun> lol [4:45] <aikiraichu> and graduate collage and have a well paying job [4:46] <Torikun> it? [4:46] <aikiraichu> what? [4:46] <Torikun> it job? [4:46] * trevorman (~tman@unaffiliated/trevorman) has joined #raspberrypi [4:46] <aikiraichu> IT job? [4:46] <Torikun> yup [4:46] <aikiraichu> for the love of god i hope not [4:46] <aikiraichu> maybe, if i have to [4:46] <Torikun> lol [4:47] <Torikun> I like working with Unix all day [4:47] <aikiraichu> maybe like buisness or something [4:47] * Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky [4:48] <Torikun> cool [4:48] <aikiraichu> i really dont know yet [4:49] <aikiraichu> maybe ill be an engi [4:49] <aikiraichu> but MIT has no football scholarship, and i really do not want to pay 60 grand a semester [4:49] <Torikun> engineer is overused like hacker [4:50] <TAFB_ssd> lol [4:50] * Gorroth ([email protected]) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [4:50] <shapr> I want to be a maker [4:50] <Torikun> I'm called an engineer but I'm not [4:50] <Torikun> I make nothing [4:51] <Torikun> tech support is not engineering [4:51] <dr_willis> i can run machine shop tools. ;;) [4:51] <Torikun> lol [4:51] <shapr> I had a really nifty tech support job once at Digium.com [4:51] <Torikun> sweet [4:51] <dr_willis> i can make things.. ;) [4:51] <aikiraichu> ill make those NV ski goggle type things and make a shitload of money maybe [4:52] <dr_willis> i make 'docks' for my phone and tablets out of solid white nylon.. ;) [4:52] <aikiraichu> now if i could bribe sony [4:52] <dr_willis> and tracyor parts [4:52] <dr_willis> tractor [4:52] <Torikun> I did make mephistobackup.googlecode.com [4:52] <TAFB_ssd> dr_willis: any make any canons or stuff that explodes? :) [4:52] <Torikun> lol [4:53] <shapr> Huh, my finger makes an excellent heatsink for my Pi's CPU [4:53] <Torikun> hahahahaha [4:53] <dr_willis> theeeey frown on that at work. ;) [4:53] <TAFB_ssd> shapr: it can also make a great transmit antenna when set up as fm transmitter :) [4:54] <dr_willis> madde someee compression type fire starterss for campiing [4:54] <TAFB_ssd> dr_willis: no doubt :) lol [4:55] * timmmaaaayyy ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [4:55] <dr_willis> making little docking 'blocks' to hold phones and tables has been my time waster lately [4:55] <TAFB_ssd> dr_willis: I had a machine shop make up the "grenades" for my grenade launcher, and the machinist asked me to bring in the gun/launcher to get measured up (he didn't trust my autocad drawings of it).... [4:55] <dr_willis> 20 min with a mill and it looks nice [4:56] <TAFB_ssd> dr_willis: I had to get special permission from the owner, and when I came back to pick them up, he launched a few golf balls out of it. He and the machinist got their firearms license after that, and got the permit to do modifications and repairs to firearms :) woot. [4:56] <shapr> So what actually makes the OK light on the Pi flicker? [4:56] <shapr> Is it related to CPU activity somehow? [4:56] <TAFB_ssd> shapr: You probably mean the ACT light, when it's reading/writing to the SD card. [4:56] <Torikun> http://www.zdnet.com/2013-the-year-of-the-ubuntu-linux-tablet-and-smartphone-7000009254/ [4:57] <TAFB_ssd> also blinks when it's fully shut down so you know you can power it down. [4:57] <axion> it flickers when attempting to read the sd [4:57] * Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk [4:57] * KeatonT (~textual@unaffiliated/keatont) has joined #raspberrypi [4:57] * alexkane ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: alexkane) [4:57] <axion> hence why it flickers before the arm is powered on if an sd card is not inserted to read its configuration from [4:57] <shapr> Hm, the silkscreen on mine has LEDs for OK, PWR, FDX, LNK, and 10M [4:57] <TAFB_ssd> lol, right on the board? PIC! [4:58] <Torikun> I want a more powerful pi that can run KVM [4:58] <TAFB_ssd> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsMPBcVCw10 [4:58] <TAFB_ssd> KVM? [4:58] <shapr> Is there a legend for the various values of "Revision" in /proc/cpuinfo? [4:58] <Torikun> red hats virtualbox [4:59] <Torikun> thing [4:59] <shapr> Mine says it's Revision : 0002 [4:59] <TAFB_ssd> shapr: the "Revision" is your warranty void/good status ;) [4:59] * Gorroth ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [4:59] <shapr> eh? [5:00] <Torikun> http://rushersdomain.blogspot.com/2013/01/removing-logging-to-increase-apache-on.html [5:00] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: got a link? my google is being dumb, still hung over from party last night (google, not me). [5:00] <Torikun> every pi user should read [5:00] <aikiraichu> 0.0 [5:00] <Torikun> lol ? [5:00] <aikiraichu> i can run quake 3 on a PI [5:01] * shapr ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: coffee shop is closing down) [5:01] <aikiraichu> HOW [5:01] <TAFB_ssd> aikiraichu: gotta compile it :) works sweet. google and the link should come up. it's easy! [5:02] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: great blog post. I don't think you missed a few steps... [5:02] * OutOfLine ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [5:03] <Torikun> I got everything lol [5:03] <TAFB_ssd> did ya? lol. 1 sec. [5:03] <aikiraichu> i would have to use raspbain [5:03] <TAFB_ssd> missed: systemctl disable syslog-ng.service [5:03] <Torikun> dam ty [5:03] * OutOfLine ([email protected]) Quit (Client Quit) [5:03] <TAFB_ssd> when you run that disable command, I believe it RM's both of those .service files, so those aren't commands you need to run :) [5:04] * timmmaaaayyy ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: timmmaaaayyy) [5:04] <TAFB_ssd> looks great other than that. You should mention that it also frees up ram and CPU too (especially journald, syslog not so much). [5:05] <Torikun> thanks. updated it [5:05] <TAFB_ssd> checking.... [5:06] <TAFB_ssd> got a double space "disable syslog-ng" [5:06] <Torikun> try now [5:07] <TAFB_ssd> looks good, I think you can remove those two RM lines right? it did that for ya when you did "systemctl disable syslog-ng.service" right? [5:07] <Torikun> yup [5:08] <Torikun> disable should RM them [5:08] * Foxhoundz (~Foxhoundz@unaffiliated/foxhoundz) Quit (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) [5:08] <TAFB_ssd> i would remove them, otherwise people will be "hey, I ran the RM but it said it couldn't find the .service files!" hehe [5:08] <Torikun> updated [5:08] <TAFB_ssd> that looks better. [5:08] <Torikun> ty [5:09] <TAFB_ssd> don't forget to mention that journald eats your ram and uses lots of CPU (1.4%!) too, the main reason I removed it :) [5:09] <Torikun> k [5:09] <Torikun> precocious io on SD lol [5:10] <TAFB_ssd> I know, and think of the write cycles too! probably improved the life of the SD card by 10 times! [5:10] * Foxhoundz (~Foxhoundz@unaffiliated/foxhoundz) has joined #raspberrypi [5:10] <Torikun> I love having my pi as a time machine server! [5:10] <TAFB_ssd> you are nuts ;) lol [5:11] <Torikun> not bad for hourly updates [5:11] <Torikun> usually 50mb [5:12] <TAFB_ssd> also, you might not want to mention Apache specifically, as it'll improve the performance of any webserver application, not to mention the entire Pi in general. I would title it "Removing logging to increase performance on the Raspberry Pi". [5:13] <TAFB_ssd> you can talk about Apache in your first paragraph [5:13] * dniMretsaM ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [5:13] <TAFB_ssd> also mention the limited write cycles on the SD card, and this will stop a lot of unnecessary writes. [5:13] <Torikun> ok [5:14] * plugwash (~plugwash@2001:5c0:1400:a::7e7) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [5:15] <aikiraichu> TAFB, why did you try and import a bunch of guns? [5:15] * voxadam ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [5:16] <TAFB_ssd> aikiraichu: I had been bringing them in for years, for myself, for friends, etc. I had a collector order 15 at once, set off some red flags and they busted me for not being a registered firearm importer (you can import for personal use, but not commercial use), etc. [5:16] * melonipoika ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [5:16] <aikiraichu> ah [5:16] <Torikun> OK updated [5:17] * Foxhoundz (~Foxhoundz@unaffiliated/foxhoundz) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [5:17] <TAFB_ssd> the thing that sucked was I called everyone, made sure I could do 15 guns at once, etc. Everyone said, as long as it's under $250,000, no problems claiming as personal. So I went ahead and did it. [5:18] <TAFB_ssd> but there was another law, "If you accept money for a gun, that you do not yet own, that makes it a commercial firearm transaction and you must have a business license" :( [5:18] <aikiraichu> why not get an importer licence? [5:18] <Torikun> http://rushersdomain.blogspot.com/2013/01/removing-logging-to-increase-io.html [5:18] <TAFB_ssd> I would use "increase I/O performance" [5:19] <TAFB_ssd> aikiraichu: you need a physical store, place of business, apply for permits, takes years, big monthly fee's, etc. not attractive for a small guy like me. [5:19] <aikiraichu> i want to make a country [5:19] <aikiraichu> and invite gun owners to it [5:19] <aikiraichu> no gun bans [5:19] <Torikun> k [5:20] <aikiraichu> we can provide training [5:20] <aikiraichu> everyone is in this countrys millitary [5:20] * yofel_ (~quassel@ubuntu/member/yofel) has joined #raspberrypi [5:20] <aikiraichu> we get some weapons from russia [5:21] <aikiraichu> tanks and crap [5:21] <aikiraichu> what could we name the country? [5:22] * KeatonT (~textual@unaffiliated/keatont) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [5:22] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: "significantly less writes on the SD card, extending its life." or something along those lines. [5:23] <Torikun> k [5:24] <TAFB_ssd> some/most people don't know that SD cards have a limited lifetime/write cycles, so it's good to explain why less writes are important. [5:24] * yofel (~quassel@ubuntu/member/yofel) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [5:25] * Piffer ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [5:25] <Torikun> ok [5:26] * jimerickson (~jimericks@pdpc/supporter/active/jimerickson) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [5:26] <aikiraichu> TAFB, how well dose the F2000 shoot? [5:26] * shapr ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [5:26] * Piffer ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [5:27] <Torikun> updated [5:28] * jimerickson (~jimericks@pdpc/supporter/active/jimerickson) has joined #raspberrypi [5:30] <TAFB_ssd> FS2000, absolutely flawless. amazing firearm. [5:30] * shapr checks the channel title [5:30] <Torikun> .lol [5:30] <shapr> Perhaps #raspberrypi-offtopic? [5:31] <TAFB_ssd> http://tafb.xxx/guns/videos/9thEESA/mov011.jpg [5:31] <TAFB_ssd> shapr: they allow off-topic for a while, as long as it's not getting in the way of actual support :) [5:31] <shapr> Fair enough [5:31] * hyperair (~hyperair@ubuntu/member/hyperair) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [5:31] <shapr> I just learned sqlite3 so I could use it on my Pi [5:32] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: I wouldn't say they have a limited number of reads, I don't think that's the case. They only have a limited number of writes :) [5:32] <Torikun> lol ok [5:32] <TAFB_ssd> :) [5:32] <shapr> Does anyone have a .screenrc they would recommend? [5:33] <Torikun> done [5:33] <TAFB_ssd> shapr: is that the login logo?? [5:33] * lickalott ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [5:33] <Torikun> I am interested [5:33] <shapr> TAFB_ssd: um, what? [5:33] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: looks great, nice work. [5:33] <shapr> No, I want to use screen so I can ssh into my Pi and run long compiles and logout and leave those compiles running. [5:33] <Torikun> ty [5:34] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: have you tried running it without a swap file, or adjusting the "swappiness"? [5:34] <Torikun> with no swapfile I have issues [5:34] <Torikun> with some daemons [5:34] <shapr> screen lets you have multiple command shells in the same single screen [5:34] <Torikun> needing mem [5:34] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: oh, that sucks. [5:35] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: did you tweak your fstab mount options and enable journal cache writeback? Cuts down on the I/O huge!! [5:35] <aikiraichu> why is tafb.xx a motorcycle website? [5:35] <Torikun> mk it yet [5:35] <Torikun> not [5:35] * dj_pi ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [5:35] <TAFB_ssd> aikiraichu: cause that's what I do, re-write the computers in bikes. [5:36] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: check out my fstab on http://tafb.yi.org [5:36] <Torikun> will modify tomorrow lol [5:36] <TAFB_ssd> designed for all out I/O performance, should work sweet on your SD card. The command to run for enabling journal caching is there too. [5:36] <TAFB_ssd> sounds good :) don't mess up your fstab of you'll be reimaging again [5:36] <Torikun> yup lol [5:37] <Torikun> I'm scared to upgrade packages noe [5:37] <TAFB_ssd> remeber, where mine says "/dev/sda1" your would say "/dev/mmcfoh78hf8" or whatever it is on the Pi ;) [5:37] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: yeah, no idea why that happened. I heard they really test the new kernel updates lots before they push them! [5:37] <shapr> TAFB_ssd: I don't see the writeback mentioned there [5:37] <Torikun> I will try now lol [5:38] <TAFB_ssd> shapr: it's there [5:38] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: did you let them know in #archlinux-arm about your kernel update issues? [5:38] <Torikun> no I wanna try twice first [5:38] <Torikun> and record changes [5:39] <TAFB_ssd> it would be good, if you had a spare SD card, to install arch then try and run the update, without any extra programs installed, see how it goes. [5:39] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: if you want to pastie (not pastebin) your /etc/fstab I can tweak it and then you can just paste it back :) [5:39] <Torikun> ok [5:40] * sraue (~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [5:40] * Foxhoundz (~Foxhoundz@unaffiliated/foxhoundz) has joined #raspberrypi [5:40] * Torikun ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org) [5:40] * bizarro_1 ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [5:41] * Torikun ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [5:41] <Torikun> TAFB_ssd: http://pastie.org/5609209 [5:41] * ambro718 (~ambro@gentoo/contributor/ambro718) Quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [5:41] <TAFB_ssd> k. tweaking... [5:43] * gardar ([email protected]) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [5:43] <shapr> I like byobu better than screen! [5:43] * Quietlyawesome94 ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120722203403]) [5:44] * [7] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) Quit (Read error: Operation timed out) [5:45] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: can you run "cat /proc/mounts" and pastie that plz. [5:46] * TheSeven (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) has joined #raspberrypi [5:46] * thomashunter ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: thomashunter) [5:47] * g_r_eek ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: g_r_eek) [5:47] * bs123 ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [5:47] * bs123 ([email protected]) Quit (Client Quit) [5:47] * bs123 ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [5:48] <Torikun> http://pastie.org/5609221 [5:48] * hyperair (~hyperair@ubuntu/member/hyperair) has joined #raspberrypi [5:48] <Torikun> TAFB_ssd: there [5:48] <TAFB_ssd> k. last one "fdisk -l" [5:49] <TAFB_ssd> that's a -L but lower case :) [5:49] <Torikun> http://pastie.org/5609222 [5:50] <TAFB_ssd> perfect, tweaking, one sec. [5:51] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: new fstab: http://pastie.org/pastes/5609224/text [5:51] * lickalott ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [5:51] <Torikun> ty [5:51] <Torikun> updates almost done [5:52] <TAFB_ssd> k. let me know once that's all installed and rebooted, and I'll give ya the next command to run :) [5:54] <Torikun> ok updates done [5:54] <Torikun> crosses finger [5:54] <Torikun> for reboot [5:54] <TAFB_ssd> lol [5:55] * Cy-Gor ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [5:55] <Torikun> ok reboot finally finished [5:56] <Torikun> host not up yet.... [5:56] <TAFB_ssd> lol... [5:56] <TAFB_ssd> we wait... [5:56] <TAFB_ssd> .... [5:56] <Torikun> scared! [5:56] <TAFB_ssd> you have a screen connected to it? [5:56] <Torikun> no [5:56] <TAFB_ssd> lol [5:56] <TAFB_ssd> great :) [5:56] <Torikun> it was stuck on the bootsplash screen last time [5:56] <TAFB_ssd> with the kernel upgrade? :( [5:57] <Torikun> and raspberry pi firmware [5:57] <TAFB_ssd> ahhh [5:57] <Torikun> packages [5:57] <SpeedEvil> http://b3ta.com/board/10902272 [5:57] <SpeedEvil> not strictly on topic [5:57] <TAFB_ssd> should be booted now... !? [5:57] <TAFB_ssd> SpeedEvil: We've been WAY off topic today :) [5:58] <Torikun> restarted it again [5:58] <Hodapp> w00t, I finally cleaned up the wiring on my Raspberry Pi project and put the board in a case [5:58] <shapr> Are there some cases that come with space for heatsinks? [5:58] <TAFB_ssd> Hodapp: nice. Pi's are so ugly with a mess of wires in them. [5:59] <TAFB_ssd> shapr: most cases will allow heatsinks, not the rainbow or those "stacking" cases though. [5:59] <Torikun> wow pi no come up [5:59] <shapr> I'd sort of like to have a case that touches the chips directly so it can be a heatsink itself. [5:59] <TAFB_ssd> my Pi came with little heatsinks [5:59] <Hodapp> TAFB_ssd: I had a mess of wires for sure. I got some perfboard, a connector, a cable for the GPIO, and I soldered a header on there which routes to some other headers; one for TTL serial, the other for SPI [5:59] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: is it ext4? [5:59] <Torikun> yup [5:59] * shurizzle (~shura@unaffiliated/shurizzle) Quit (Quit: bye.) [6:00] <TAFB_ssd> can you take SD card and put it in linux computer for us to take a looka at something? [6:00] <Torikun> plugged it to tv [6:00] <Torikun> only mac [6:00] <Torikun> lol [6:00] <TAFB_ssd> can mac read the linux filesystem? [6:00] <Xark> TAFB_ssd: Not directly AFAIK. [6:00] <Torikun> I just ee the rainbow color logo [6:00] <Torikun> let me see if it is still free [6:01] <TAFB_ssd> You might need bootable Linux CD, I use Knoppix but lots of people use Ubuntu Live on USB stick, etc. [6:02] <Torikun> Message: Unknown Error (The filesystem may need repair. Please use Disk Utility to check the filesystem.) ] [6:02] <TAFB_ssd> ahhh. we probably need to specify ext4 in fstab file :( [6:02] <Torikun> says it is ext3 [6:02] <Torikun> Filesystem: Linux Ext3 (Journaled) [6:02] <Torikun> I can access the msdos /boot partition on it [6:03] <TAFB_ssd> I think it's defaulting to ext3 because we didn't specify it was ext4 [6:03] <TAFB_ssd> the fstab isn't in /boot :( [6:03] <Torikun> the mac says that is the FS on it [6:03] <Torikun> same problem after last upgarde [6:03] <TAFB_ssd> here's the new fstab with the ext4: http://pastie.org/pastes/5609244/text [6:03] <Torikun> I doubt it is fstab [6:03] <TAFB_ssd> possibly, if you boot knoppix you can run a fix on the SD card, and we can also edit fstab,. [6:03] <TAFB_ssd> you really need a linux bootable CD to fix Pi problems. [6:04] <Torikun> ah the superblock got corrupted [6:04] <Torikun> after the update [6:04] <Torikun> filesystem has upsupported features [6:04] <Torikun> maybe it was ext4 lol [6:05] <TAFB_ssd> did you update the kernel again? [6:05] <Torikun> yeah [6:05] <Torikun> checking filesystem now [6:05] <TAFB_ssd> i had same problem after my kernel update, switched to ext4 from ext3 = not boot. [6:05] <TAFB_ssd> same error "unsupported features". [6:06] * Delboy ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [6:06] <Torikun> what could cause that [6:06] <TAFB_ssd> I had to move the kernal onto seperate ext3 partition, then it worked fine. [6:06] * ryushe is now known as TheTSA [6:06] * TheTSA is now known as ryushe [6:06] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: i have no idea. WarheadsSE from #archlinux-arm remotely connected into my system and fixed it all up for me :( [6:06] <Torikun> did you see rainbow screen when PI starts? [6:07] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: I was using my seagate box, no display, fired up "netconsole" (works like a screen) and I could see the errors when it wasn't booting. [6:07] <Torikun> hmmm [6:07] <Torikun> what should I do now...reflash? [6:07] <Torikun> not sure at this point if it was fstab or kernel [6:08] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: I'm not sure. Right now I think we should fix fstab so it knows it's ext4 :) [6:08] <TAFB_ssd> need bootable linux CD or USB :) [6:08] * hyperair (~hyperair@ubuntu/member/hyperair) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [6:09] <Torikun> i could do it on my work laptop [6:09] <TAFB_ssd> runs linux!? lol [6:09] <Torikun> gotta get a live cd [6:09] <Torikun> WAIT WAIT [6:09] <Torikun> TAFB_ssd: I never changed the fstab yet lol [6:10] <TAFB_ssd> !??! how is that possible? [6:10] <TAFB_ssd> lol [6:10] <Torikun> so that is not the issue [6:10] <Torikun> lol [6:10] <TAFB_ssd> good news, I guess. [6:10] <TAFB_ssd> I'm sure your problem is ext4 [6:10] <TAFB_ssd> new arch kernel has big issue booting from ext4 [6:11] <Torikun> should I change to ext3? [6:11] <Torikun> then upgrade? [6:11] * ReggieUK ([email protected]) Quit () [6:12] <TAFB_ssd> that's what I had to do, go ext3, run all the updates, worked fine. Then WarheadsSE moved my kernel onto a separate ext3 partition (used gparted for that), then converted "rootfs" to ext4, worked flawless. [6:12] <Torikun> wtf [6:12] <Torikun> That is horrible [6:12] <TAFB_ssd> was a ton of work [6:12] <TAFB_ssd> I know :( [6:12] <Torikun> Shoudl I reflash? [6:12] <Torikun> That is not how a kernel update is supposed to be. Are they fixing it? [6:12] <TAFB_ssd> look at my status: http://tafb.yi.org/ [6:13] <TAFB_ssd> under drive usage, see /dev/sda2? that's where my kernel is. [6:13] * Delboy ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [6:13] <Torikun> wow [6:13] <Torikun> should I reflash at this point then try it? [6:13] <TAFB_ssd> when you reflash, will it be ext3 or 4? [6:13] <Torikun> or .... change /etc/fstab from live cd [6:13] <Torikun> let me check my daughters PI [6:13] <TAFB_ssd> k. [6:14] * alan_o ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [6:14] <TAFB_ssd> problem was the image I was using was ext4! so we had to make EXT3 partition with gparted, format it, then boot up live CD and rsync the files over (couldn't use dd), was a huge pain. [6:14] <Torikun> dam! [6:15] * lickalott ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [6:15] <Torikun> they need to remove that update TAFB_ssd [6:15] <Torikun> Why would they keep it there [6:15] <TAFB_ssd> I e-mailed you your blog post, so you don't lose it if you have to re-image. [6:15] <Torikun> ty [6:16] <Torikun> email is not up [6:16] <Torikun> pi is down [6:16] <TAFB_ssd> oh damn [6:16] <Torikun> lol [6:16] <TAFB_ssd> well, I have it saved here, for if you need it ;) [6:16] <Torikun> lol ty [6:16] * SirFunk (SirFunk@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe93:11b3) has joined #raspberrypi [6:16] <Torikun> here : /dev/root on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered) [6:16] <Torikun> so it is ext4 [6:16] <Torikun> lol [6:16] <Torikun> Time to reflash [6:17] <TAFB_ssd> oh damn. [6:17] <TAFB_ssd> but reflash will still be ext4 right! [6:17] <Torikun> Reflashing has started. Two hours remain [6:17] <TAFB_ssd> won't solve your problem with the update. [6:17] <Torikun> I will change fstab to ext3 before update [6:17] <Torikun> and reboot [6:17] <Torikun> then update [6:17] <TAFB_ssd> won't work, can't go from ext4 to 3, only ext3 to 4! [6:17] <Torikun> so I should wait a month and update again? [6:18] <TAFB_ssd> maybe a good plan ;) [6:18] <Torikun> hahahahaha [6:18] <Torikun> madness! [6:18] <TAFB_ssd> and make fresh image of SD card before you update. [6:18] <Torikun> I made a fresh one today [6:18] <Torikun> after I got it up and running [6:18] <Torikun> thank god [6:18] <Torikun> creating the image takes about 30 min, writing takes over an hour [6:19] <TAFB_ssd> Ok, in the mean time, after image is done, fire up gparted and shrink partition by 20mb, make a new 20mb ext3 partition at the END of the drive, then move your kernel there. never ever any issues after that :) [6:19] <Torikun> just the kernel.img ? [6:19] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: yeah, SD is much faster at read than write :) that's why I love SSD, fast at both. [6:19] <Torikun> do you have to update anything [6:20] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: I'm not 100% sure what has to be changed, my box uses uInitrd and uImage which are now stored on /boot 20mb ext3 partition [6:20] <Torikun> AH [6:21] <TAFB_ssd> what do you have in /boot? [6:21] <Torikun> can not look at it now lol [6:21] <Torikun> reflashing [6:22] <Torikun> What is uImage used for? [6:22] <Torikun> never heard of it [6:22] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: got an error "this gmail user doesn't exist" on e-mail. [6:22] <TAFB_ssd> uImage is my kernel, compressed, in a file. It expands the kernel to a ram drive on boot, and boots it from there. [6:22] <Torikun> how is it different from ones created by initramfs or mkinitcpio [6:23] <TAFB_ssd> no clue, I'm linux noob, remember? :) [6:23] <Torikun> lol [6:25] <Torikun> sh-3.2# dd if=archlinux-server.img of=/dev/disk1 [6:25] <Torikun> lol [6:25] <TAFB_ssd> shouldn't you specify block size? it uses 4k by default = super slow [6:25] <Torikun> lol ext4 in bold [6:25] <Torikun> na [6:25] <TAFB_ssd> LOL :) [6:26] <Torikun> does the image have to be made specifying the blocksize for it to work [6:26] <Torikun> maybe too late [6:26] <TAFB_ssd> nope, just tells DD what block size to use when writing (I use 512k, makes it go super fast) [6:27] <TAFB_ssd> doesn't change actual block size of the drive/partition [6:27] <Torikun> dd if=archlinux-server.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=512k [6:27] <TAFB_ssd> just how many block chunks DD writes at a time. [6:27] <TAFB_ssd> Yep, I think it's bs=512K but would probably work. [6:27] <Torikun> time dd if=archlinux-server.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=512k [6:27] <Torikun> how much time do you think it will save [6:27] <Torikun> 8GB SD [6:27] <TAFB_ssd> probably cut it in half [6:28] <Torikun> wow [6:28] <Torikun> good to know ty [6:28] <TAFB_ssd> worth aborting it and trying, so at least you'll know [6:28] <TAFB_ssd> :) [6:28] <Torikun> already did lol [6:28] <TAFB_ssd> nice, does it give you any status? you know how to poll it right? [6:28] <dr_willis> i tend to use bs=1M ;) [6:28] <Torikun> Which BS is faster? [6:28] <TAFB_ssd> 1M? wow :) [6:28] <Torikun> lol [6:28] <Torikun> I want the fastest BS lol [6:28] <TAFB_ssd> lol [6:28] <dr_willis> ives seen benchmarks where more is berrer up to like 2mb. [6:28] * Cykey ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [6:29] <dr_willis> but it depends on the hardwaee [6:29] <Torikun> Luckily, no configuring needs to be done after I reflash. Flash and sleep lol [6:29] <dr_willis> and i read somewhere some distros/dd has a higher default bs these days [6:30] <Torikun> Input data is read and written in [6:30] <Torikun> 512-byte blocks. [6:30] <Torikun> Dam [6:30] <Torikun> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Darwin/Reference/Manpages/man1/dd.1.html [6:30] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: just thank god that you're only imaging 8gigs! I gotta image 120gb when I do mine :( [6:30] <Torikun> lol [6:31] <Torikun> what do you think the default is based on that link [6:31] <TAFB_ssd> at least SSD is fast, only 20 mins to read or write image :) [6:31] <dr_willis> bs=1GB ;) [6:32] <Torikun> lol [6:32] <TAFB_ssd> that wouldn't work, need to fit into ram :) lol [6:32] <dr_willis> i bet ram would be a limit [6:32] <dr_willis> swap partition! [6:32] <TAFB_ssd> yeah, that'd be fast ;) [6:32] <dr_willis> on a nfs share! [6:32] <Torikun> lol [6:32] <Torikun> how is that [6:32] <dr_willis> stored on dropbox [6:32] <Torikun> hahahahahaah [6:33] <dr_willis> accessed via TOR [6:33] <Torikun> hahaahah [6:33] <dr_willis> encrypted.... [6:33] <dr_willis> with rot13 [6:33] <Torikun> lol [6:33] <Torikun> hosted on windows server 2008 [6:34] <Torikun> in the cloud [6:34] <Torikun> on a windows 3.1 box [6:34] <Torikun> in 1984 [6:34] <Torikun> boom [6:36] <Torikun> TAFB_ssd: when I make a new dd image, I should specify 512k also? [6:36] <TAFB_ssd> yep, would read it much faster I'm sure. [6:37] <TAFB_ssd> you going to try and move your kernel onto ext3 separate partition? [6:37] <Tachyon`> just set BS to 131072, that should be a balance between speed and not losing the end and I think it's also exactly one flash sector [6:37] <TAFB_ssd> lol [6:37] <Tachyon`> of course that assumes they'll be aligned which they likely won't be but still [6:38] <Torikun> i am reflashing my original image now [6:38] <Torikun> and will wait for a new kernel [6:38] <TAFB_ssd> Tachyon`: they won't be aligned because of wear leveling? [6:38] <Torikun> all this dd'ing will ruin a geek's SD [6:39] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: naa, using the swap file on SD is 100x worse than just DD'ing. DD is just one extra write ;) [6:39] <Torikun> ah [6:39] <Tachyon`> wear leveling is in sectors anyway [6:40] <Tachyon`> I'm just not sure where other data is stored that'd normally be outside the usaul 512 byte sectors, CRCs etc., might throw it off if those are included [6:40] <Tachyon`> IE: 128K of data may take slightly more than 128K [6:40] <TAFB_ssd> ahhh, freaky. [6:40] <SpeedEvil> wear leveling occurs over regions of blocks 1024 blocks has been used in the past [6:40] <TAFB_ssd> SpeedEvil: yeah, I was reading that on the info that came with my SSD, wasn't sure if it was the same for SD. [6:41] <Tachyon`> however it appears logically, it cannot be a unit less than one flash sector (usually 128K) [6:41] * l0rd_hex ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [6:41] <TAFB_ssd> I think on my SSD it said the wear leveling blocks were 64k, gimme a sec I'll see if I can find it. [6:42] <Tachyon`> aye, I said /usually/ 128K [6:42] <Tachyon`> 64K is also a possibility, if that's what size your flash sectors are, lol [6:42] <Tachyon`> my point is you can't wear level half a sector [6:45] <TAFB_ssd> wow, neat information abour raid and wear levelling, especially raid 0/stripe :) [6:48] * bs123 ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [6:48] <Torikun> if I power the pi via laptop, that means I will have a UPS like setup. However, If I keep the PI plugged in to the wall, it will turn on when power comes back. Which one is better? [6:48] <Torikun> USB or power connectivity. [6:49] <Torikun> Redundancy or Stability [6:49] <TAFB_ssd> the Pi will boot automatically when power is restored, assuming the file system survived the outage. [6:49] <Torikun> Yeah [6:49] <TAFB_ssd> i use a flashlight as the battery backup to my Pi [6:49] <TAFB_ssd> works sweet. [6:49] <TAFB_ssd> switches from AC to battery back to AC without a hiccup. [6:50] <Torikun> If the laptop dies, it has to be pressed on [6:50] <Torikun> for hte PI to come back [6:50] <TAFB_ssd> ahhh, no setting in bios "return to last power state on outage"? [6:50] <dr_willis> laptop usb ports may not give out enough power. [6:50] <Torikun> na [6:50] <Torikun> Lenovo thinkpad [6:50] <Torikun> T400 [6:51] <pksato> q/quit [6:51] <Torikun> Which would you guys do in that situation [6:51] <dr_willis> pi may want/need more then the usb standard [6:51] * pksato (~PEBKAC@unaffiliated/pksato) Quit (Quit: Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair) [6:51] <Torikun> I am using a cheap low charger on itn ow dr_willis [6:51] <Torikun> so a cable should suffice [6:51] <Torikun> made for a cheap cell phone [6:52] <dr_willis> or it could get flakey at any time [6:52] <dr_willis> pi forums and faq is full of people with power issues [6:52] <Torikun> TAFB_ssd: Arch bugs like the one we had make me really want CentOS lol [6:52] <Torikun> yeah [6:52] <TAFB_ssd> rofl [6:52] <TAFB_ssd> to them make Cent for the Pi? [6:52] <Torikun> lol [6:52] <Torikun> Enterprise quality! [6:53] <Torikun> Arch is kinda unstable lol [6:54] <Torikun> Maybe raspian is the more stable choice [6:54] <Torikun> but I can not use my wireless keybard to install it [6:54] <Torikun> Arch is my only option lol [6:55] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: you could use berryboot to install raspian and used VNC to control berryboot remotely :) [6:55] <Torikun> oh snap [6:55] <Torikun> that is like having a server console [6:55] <Torikun> awesome [6:56] <Torikun> (errr kinda) [6:57] <dr_willis> i need to test berryboot someday [6:57] <Torikun> I did [6:57] <Torikun> it did not have arch [6:57] <Torikun> lol [6:57] <Torikun> So I got rid of it [6:58] <Torikun> Was cool though [6:58] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: you can add your own distro to the berryboot menu :) [6:58] <Torikun> I did not know what values to put [6:58] <TAFB_ssd> there's a wiki article with like 40 distros and the exact commands to put in berry boot :) [6:58] <Torikun> Nice [6:59] <Torikun> have two arch installs [6:59] <Torikun> in case an update screws up lol [7:00] <Torikun> I can not upgrade my daughters PI because upgrading it causes omx player to not work TAFB_ssd lol [7:00] <Torikun> see the hell I go through ? lol [7:00] <Torikun> I think it was also another kenel one lol [7:02] <TAFB_ssd> nice [7:02] <TAFB_ssd> yeah, dual boot would be sweet, one test, one production [7:03] <Torikun> can you dd a live system to say a SMB share> [7:03] <Torikun> it be nice to do a live DD to avoid downtime [7:04] <Torikun> dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 of=/mnt/samba/image.img bs=512k [7:06] <clear`> hmm [7:06] <clear`> which filesystem is the best for storage? [7:06] <clear`> ext3? [7:06] <Torikun> LVM with ext4 [7:07] <TAFB_ssd> ext4 is best [7:07] <clear`> rasbian [7:07] <Torikun> ext4 has faster recovery times [7:07] <clear`> windows can still read ext4? [7:07] <Torikun> not by default [7:07] <clear`> i need something that windows and linux can both see [7:07] <TAFB_ssd> clear`: if you're sharing from your Pi, the file format doesn't matter, windows can read it over network perfect [7:08] <clear`> well thats what i was about to say, it will be connected to the pi, i will be dumping movies to it via ftp [7:08] <Torikun> oh just use samba [7:08] <Torikun> filesystem does not matter [7:08] <atouk> faster than ftp,too [7:08] <Torikun> samba is a shared dir sever for any OS [7:09] <Torikun> FTP does not matter on filesystem either [7:09] <clear`> i will be setting that up also [7:09] <Torikun> nobody uses FTP now days lol [7:09] <clear`> < [7:09] <clear`> i do [7:09] <Torikun> scp ! [7:09] <Torikun> lol [7:09] <clear`> lol [7:09] <clear`> but thats just because i have a ton of cpanel accounts, websites i have to upload files to [7:10] * Torikun uses FTP at work =( [7:11] <Torikun> do you use mx records for ftp.hostname.com clear` [7:11] <Torikun> or do you just ftp to the hostname [7:11] <clear`> ftp.domain.com [7:11] <clear`> for each domain [7:11] <TAFB_ssd> mx is just for mail [7:11] <Torikun> A record ? [7:11] <clear`> mx = mail exchange [7:12] <clear`> each site has its own records, yes [7:12] <Torikun> what would the A record be for the same server running FTP [7:12] <clear`> but i can access everything from just 1 ip [7:12] <Torikun> oh [7:12] <clear`> i can do ftp.mymaindomain.com to access any of the accounts [7:12] <clear`> just need the account username and email [7:12] <Torikun> oh [7:13] <clear`> whmcp ftw! [7:13] <clear`> it controls everything [7:13] <Torikun> so it would be kinda pointless to have a A record for FTP if the domain is on the same host? [7:15] <Torikun> I guess the correct term is C name ? [7:15] <Torikun> CNAME [7:18] * MadeAllUp ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [7:19] <Torikun> TAFB_ssd: in Godaddy, what of I set the mx record to @ instead of dyndns? [7:19] <TAFB_ssd> pardon? [7:20] <Torikun> [7:20] <Torikun> 0 [7:20] <Torikun> @ [7:20] <Torikun> rusher81572.dyndns.org [7:20] <Torikun> 1/2 Hour [7:20] <Torikun> looks like using @ defaults to ip in A record [7:20] <TAFB_ssd> not sure, don't know much about MX, just what works ;) [7:20] <Torikun> would i not need to use dyndns in my mail settings>?' [7:21] <clear`> Torikun: i rarely touch any of those settings, i let whmcp deal with all that [7:21] * nils_2 (~nils_2@unaffiliated/nils-2/x-2480262) Quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0-rc1) [7:21] <Torikun> oh [7:21] <clear`> are you trying to make your pi into a full webserver? [7:21] <Torikun> yup [7:21] <TAFB_ssd> clear`: it already is :) he's got web and e-mail server running on it [7:21] <clear`> oh cool [7:21] <Torikun> ok changed mx [7:22] <clear`> i would lease an ip address from a server, have everything go through that [7:22] <clear`> you can get an ip for a few bucks [7:22] <Torikun> my home IP never changes [7:22] <clear`> and it will be dedicated, no worry if your home ip changes [7:24] <TAFB_ssd> my isp doesn't sell static ip for residential customers :( I use dnsexit (free), works great. [7:25] <clear`> yea most isp's wont sell an ip period [7:25] <TAFB_ssd> http://toysareforboys.com is on it, and http://hawthornevalleygolf.com too, all hosted on my little arm :) [7:25] <clear`> my vps gives me 4, i can buy 5 extra for $5 [7:25] <TAFB_ssd> if I was on business plan, it'd only be $5 for one ip, or every package but the basic one comes with 5 :( [7:25] <TAFB_ssd> I'm just happy they don't block port 80/25 :) [7:25] <piney> another advantage to what clear` is saying is that configuration would allow you to display a 'service unavailable' web page if your connection is ever down, and it allows caching of large / static files too. [7:26] <clear`> how much is the business plan? [7:26] <clear`> 404 not found! [7:26] <piney> 503 service unavailable [7:26] <TAFB_ssd> almost $200 more per month than I'm paying now for the same speed (I got crazy speed), but could probably bump it down. [7:27] * voxadam ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [7:27] <clear`> TAFB_ssd: thats too expensive lol [7:27] <TAFB_ssd> for sure, will have to up my hosting rates if I'm gonna get better service :) [7:27] <clear`> lol [7:28] <clear`> i charge plenty for my hosting rate ;p [7:28] <clear`> 1 client more than pays for my servers [7:29] <piney> my clients offset my server addiction :) [7:29] <TAFB_ssd> sweet. I was pricing out some 10gigabit switches for my house, not cheap :( [7:30] <clear`> i dont have a server addiction =X [7:30] <clear`> i only need 3 :P [7:30] <clear`> wait [7:30] <clear`> 4 [7:30] <clear`> no [7:30] <clear`> make it 5 [7:30] <clear`> :( i feel like an addict now [7:30] <piney> i keep on saying I have to have 2 in each data center for HA reasons [7:31] <clear`> HA? [7:31] <piney> high availability [7:31] <clear`> ah [7:31] <piney> 2 servers, 3 ip's one floating. no load balancers (yet) [7:31] <clear`> i have one in DC and one in LA, DC is my main webserver, but if it goes down, everything is pointed to LA [7:32] <clear`> LA is cloned of DC [7:32] <piney> just change dns to switch over? [7:32] <TAFB_ssd> alright, 1:30am here, should probably be gettin some sleeps. big day tomorrow, gotta pick up all my new years day sale purchases :) [7:32] <clear`> not sure how the admins handle it [7:32] <clear`> have fun TAFB_ssd [7:33] <piney> so it's almost seamless then. that's nice [7:33] <TAFB_ssd> will try :) gettin 2xSSD's on raid 0 card (with capacity for 4) :) [7:33] <TAFB_ssd> should be fast [7:33] <clear`> yea, pretty seamless [7:33] <clear`> its only so i have very little downtime [7:33] <clear`> if something screws up [7:33] <piney> yea [7:36] <clear`> i need to setup windows to share with the pi [7:36] <clear`> but i am too lazy to get up ; [7:36] * TAFB_ssd is now known as TAFB_zzz [7:36] * Haaninjo ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [7:36] * Linovia ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [7:37] <aikiraichu> tafb is now my favorite canadian [7:40] * lickalott ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [7:47] * jardiamj ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [7:47] * cdan (567a2932@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.122.41.50) has joined #raspberrypi [7:47] <cdan> good morning [7:52] <clear`> morning [7:55] * swat (~swat@ubuntu/member/swat) has joined #raspberrypi [7:57] * intothev01d (~intothev0@unaffiliated/intothev01d) Quit (Quit: intothev01d) [7:58] * shapr ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: sleepz) [8:00] * matejv ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [8:04] * cdan (567a2932@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.122.41.50) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [8:06] * TAFB_zzz ([email protected]) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [8:20] * xrosnight ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [8:20] * Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky [8:22] <xrosnight> good afternoon. everybody :D after a shower, happy back on Rspi. 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[9:30] <Datalink> er, boot firmware [9:33] * peetaur2 ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [9:38] * Torikun ([email protected]) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [9:39] * dc5ala ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [9:42] * dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) has joined #raspberrypi [9:46] * Aranel (~Aranel@unaffiliated/aranel) Quit (Quit: pi@casablanca $ killall -9 znc) [9:48] * Aranel (~Aranel@unaffiliated/aranel) has joined #raspberrypi [9:51] * sheldor (~sheldor@gateway/tor-sasl/pushkin) Quit (Quit: Lost terminal) [9:55] * RaycisCharles ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [9:56] <davzie> Anyone know if Sony 8gig Class 4 SD cards are compatable? I've seen them in the table of read / write test speeds but the one I've been using has just died. [9:56] <davzie> Was running Raspbmc [9:56] <Tachyon`> probably but they'll be pretty slow at class 4 [9:58] <Lobs> the RPI has issues with a lot of class 10 cards [9:58] <davzie> Yeah I'm thinking, do I get a Class 10 or 6 instead. [9:58] <Tachyon`> class 10 is usually fine really, the issues are generally caused by other things as I discovered [9:59] <davzie> Well I was considering a Sandisk Extreme 8GB Class 10 then... [10:00] <Lobs> Tachyon`: and what are these other issues? [10:00] <Tachyon`> power most commonly [10:01] <Lobs> i have seen so many complaints with class 10 cards, [10:01] * cdan (567a2932@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.122.41.50) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:01] <Tachyon`> yeah, from me too but having looked into it the cards are not the issue, at least not the 4 I tried [10:01] <Tachyon`> I appreciate 4 is a rather small sample [10:01] <Tachyon`> bu the problems i had went away when I removed the polyfuse [10:01] <Lobs> so you had one that gave errors uppon boot, then changing to a more grunty psu fixed it? [10:01] * pecorade ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [10:02] <Tachyon`> I had four that would report strange errors, corrupt themselves etc. [10:02] <pecorade> Hi. [10:02] <Tachyon`> but removing the polyfuse so the pi got the full 2A fixed it [10:02] <davzie> I see [10:02] <davzie> My Pi has 5v 1000mah [10:02] <davzie> I can't seem to find a 2A PSU for it [10:03] <Lobs> i still have my doubts about that, and removing/bypassing the polyfuse isnt for most people [10:03] * neilr ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [10:06] * jimerickson (~jimericks@pdpc/supporter/active/jimerickson) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [10:06] * Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky [10:06] * ukgamer is now known as ukgamer away [10:06] * ukgamer away is now known as ukgamer [10:07] * rikai (~rikai@unaffiliated/rikai) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [10:10] * knoppies ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Bye) [10:10] * passcod ([email protected]) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:10] * [SLB]` is now known as [SLB] [10:10] * rikai (~rikai@unaffiliated/rikai) has joined #raspberrypi [10:12] * bs123 ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [10:15] * Jeroen ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [10:15] * passcod ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [10:15] * knoppies ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [10:16] * bs123 ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [10:18] * Jeroen ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: oO) [10:21] * Datalink Elsewhe (~Datalink@unaffiliated/datalink) has joined #raspberrypi [10:23] * Datalink (~Datalink@unaffiliated/datalink) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [10:24] <Man_of_Wax> davzie: usually tablet chargers are 2A, look for those! [10:24] * herdingcat ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [10:25] * lbm ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: later) [10:28] * BramN_ ([email protected]) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:28] * aikiraichu (46a97d4f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.169.125.79) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [10:32] * tanuva ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [10:32] * xrosnight ([email protected]) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:33] * egrouse (~newb@unaffiliated/egrouse) has joined #raspberrypi [10:33] * lbm ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [10:34] * BramN ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [10:36] * Alfihar ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [10:36] * luaa ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [10:42] * Alfihar ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [10:44] * AtomPhil (uid6892@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bzeqzrzbxjxzmezp) Quit () [10:45] * AtomPhil (uid6892@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ggbacjxiwivpiqvs) has joined #raspberrypi [10:52] * lbm ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: later) [10:53] * m8 (~mor@unaffiliated/m8) has joined #raspberrypi [10:54] * mongrol ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [10:56] * Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk [11:00] * herdingcat ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [11:00] <herdingcat> hi, I use rpi kernel 3.6.x and Fedora 18 ARM rootfs: http://fpaste.org/P0RI/ [11:00] <herdingcat> can anyone tell me which part gose wrong? [11:01] * peetaur2 ([email protected]) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:02] * Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky [11:10] <gordonDrogon> morning. [11:10] * tdy (~tdy@unaffiliated/tdy) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [11:11] * bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) has joined #raspberrypi [11:11] <nid0> morning [11:16] <neilr> 'ello [11:16] * NEXUS-6 (~quassel@unaffiliated/nexus-6) has joined #raspberrypi [11:17] * NEXUS-6 (~quassel@unaffiliated/nexus-6) Quit (Client Quit) [11:19] * xCP23x ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [11:20] * mongrol ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:21] * tdy (~tdy@unaffiliated/tdy) has joined #raspberrypi [11:21] * cliff-hm ([email protected]) Quit (Remote host closed the connection) [11:25] * Yitro ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [11:25] * [SkG] (~sconde@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) has joined #raspberrypi [11:25] * VictorCL ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [11:25] <VictorCL> :D [11:26] <VictorCL> morning ^^ [11:26] * dero ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [11:27] * chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) has joined #raspberrypi [11:28] <dr_willis> mooo! [11:32] <linuxstb> herdingcat: Is that ARM rootfs for the correct type of ARM? The Pi is ARM v6, preferably hard-float. [11:33] <herdingcat> linuxstb, hi mate, do you know the proper one for Fedora rootfs? [11:34] <gordonDrogon> does fedora actually support the Pi now? [11:34] * sphenxes ([email protected]) has joined #raspberrypi [11:34] <linuxstb> No, I have no idea. A google for Raspberry Pi Fedora would be the place to look. [11:34] <herdingcat> gordonDrogon, no, but we can use rpi kernel + Fedora rootfs [11:34] <gordonDrogon> I know the foundation were hoping for it to be "the one" when the Pi was released, but from what I gathered there were problems at the launch, so jumped ship to Debian... [11:35] <VictorCL> u t hink this keyboard with touchpad would work with raspberri pi and rasbmc , http://www.amazon.co.uk/Perixx-PERIBOARD-515-Wired-Keyboard-Touchpad/dp/B006359JJE [11:35] <VictorCL> ??? [11:35] * linuxstb is happy about that, being a Debian user [11:35] <gordonDrogon> well, me too, having used Debian forever. [11:36] <gordonDrogon> VictorCL, who knows - if it looks like a standard usb keyboard & mouse, then 'probably' .. [11:36] * Datalink Elsewhe is now known as Datalink [11:37] <artag> gordonDrogon: wasn't that ubuntu ? [11:37] <artag> (probs at launc) [11:37] <artag> h [11:37] <gordonDrogon> artag, Ubuntu? I've never used that. [11:37] <artag> no, what rpi wanted to use [11:38] <gordonDrogon> don't think so... pretty sure it was a red hat/derivative.. [11:41] <dr_willis> ubuntu arm dosent support the arm cpu in the pi. (yet?)
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